Claud Setacci & Martha Greer Mills

Martha Greer Mills, your great great grandmother, was born in 1890 in Londonderry, Northern Ireland. She was named after her Grandmother Martha Grier of Ramelton. Her father John Mills was a baker. Her mother was Elizabeth Sproule. Martha has 5 siblings , two brothers and three sisters. Interestingly she is listed on this 1901 Irish Census as Martie.

The family live in the heart of Londonderry at 34 Great James St, not far from the River Foyle.

Martha and her sister Elizabeth (Bessie) come to London England as young women. We don’t know when exactly, but by 1911 the two sisters are both living in the Kensington area of London. Martha is 21 and Elizabeth is 18. They share accommodations with a dozen other young people, mostly young women like themselves at 57 Lexham Gardens.

Martha Greer Mills and sister Elizabeth are both working at the Post Office Savings Bank. Yes, the Post Office at that time leveraged their locations to provide banking services. This may sound bizarre to you – doing your banking at the post office, but it was actually common in many countries for the post office to also provide banking services. Anyway, judging by the article below, it sounds like they needed a lot of clerks !

So let’s take a minute to step back and take a look at the women in your Setacci family tree and think about their significance. We start with Lucy Iles who at a an extremely young age ventures from her home in Thornbury to the big city of London to become a domestic servant at age 13 ! Then we have Letitia Ward, an only child losing her father at a young age, but persevering as her mother remarries. And now we have Martha Greer Mills who comes with her sister as a very young woman from Ireland to find work as a bank clerk in London. Three stories of young strong independent adventurous woman courageously making their way in the big city and the big world. Each of from whom you are descended. (similarly, in another part of your family tree , the Ross sisters – Deborah and Isabel – also courageously travel by themselves from Ireland to Canada at young ages in 1913 in search of new lives in London Ontario. And it is Deborah, your great great grandmother who marries Robert Dixon in Canada.)

Meanwhile Claud Setacci, your great great grandfather, and first son of Lavinio, is following in the footsteps of his Uncle Attilio. Attilio is a dental surgeon practicing out of his home on Home Park Road just outside the gates of the famous Wimbledon – All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club. And Claud, your great great grandfather , at age 22 is working and living with his Uncle and training to become a dentist.

Somehow Claud Setacci and Martha Greer Mills cross paths in London. Who knows how? Was Martha a patient at Uncle Atillio’s dental practice one day? Did Claud run into Martha Greer at a Post Office Savings Bank? Claud’s brother Bernard was also working as a clerk at the Post Office Savings bank. Did he somehow introduce the couple to each other? It is fun to guess how your great great grandparents met in London , but we really don’t know. (unless there is someone reading this who knows the true story )

We do know that on the Fourteenth of August 1915 there is a wedding at the Wimbledon Presbyterian Church on Mansell Road a short ten minute walk from the Setacci family home at 51 Alexandra Road.

Yes , Claud Stacey and Martha Greer Mills are married at the Presbyterian Church shown above. Note that the church is still going strong as Trinity United Reform Church , but back in 1915 it apparently had a very strong Scottish congregation. By the time of Claud and Martha’s wedding the congregation had sadly already lost a few men to World War One. The Church sponsored a Soldiers Hall that supported over one thousand soldiers stationed at Wimbledon Commons.

We see above that the Bride and Groom are each 26 years old. Martha was living at 15a Vicarage Gate , just off the Kensington High Street. Lavinio and Leticia ( or Letty for short) , the parents of the groom, act as witnesses, as does the bride’s father – Master Baker and Confectioner John S Mills of Londonderry.

And what is very exciting is that for the first time in this family web journal we have a real-life photo of the event provided by one of their grand daughters! One simple photo, but what a story it tells. It is a beautiful summer day on August 14th , 1915 in Wimbledon. It is, as you can see by the many smiling faces. a joyous, happy family occasion. World War 1 however is looming very much in the background.

Who are the people in the photo? We assume the groom and bride are sitting in the forefront, but after that it is anyone’s guess. The next row is mostly women. I assume bridesmaids and friends of Martha Greer’s – maybe her sister Elizabeth just to the left behind Claud? Maybe Claud’s sister , your great great Aunt Gertrude directly behind him? Is Martha’s mother Elizabeth directly behind the bride? And who could the lady with the frizzy white hair to the far right be? Could it actually be Claud’s grandmother? The 78 year old Lucy Iles Setacci? It would sure make sense! And the women to the left with the wide brimmed hat ? Claud’s mother Letitia? Or his Aunt Helene Nachmann Stacey ? We can only surmise. Or hope someone reading this can make accurate identifications! The men are at the back. We assume the two fathers Lavinio and John are there somewhere, as are Uncles Atillio and Adriano.

And most importantly, we assume Claud’s brothers Bernard and Maurice are there as well. Why is this so important to us? Because in ten days from now Bernard and Maurice will enlist in the British Army for World War One. Does everyone know this? Maybe not, maybe the two brothers haven’t told their parents yet, not wanting to spoil this very special occasion. But I think Claud knows. Despite everyone else smiling he has a slightly stern demeanor. Maybe that was just his personality, but I think it was more than that. I think Claud knows very well what his two younger brother are about to do, and is very concerned. Will this be the last family photo with everyone alive and happy and well ? ( keep reading to find out more about Maurice and Bernard)

Soon after the wedding Claud and Martha Greer purchase the home below at 16 Augustus Drive in Wimbledon.

This home, which still exists, will act as both the family home and Claud’s dental office.

Shortly after the marriage – their first daughter Mildred arrives in 1917 in the midst of WW1. Yes she arrives during one World War and, as we will see, she marries in the midst of a second World War 24 years later.

A second daughter – Pauline arrives in 1920

And a third and final daughter – Olive in 1922

Below shows the 1921 Census for 16 Augustus Road.

It indicates that Claud is a dental surgeon and that his place of work is his Wimbledon home.

It also shows that daughter Mildred is just over 4 years old, and daughter Pauline is just over a year old. Olive has yet to arrive. The family also employs May Alcock to help with the kids and around the house.

The family resides here at Augustus Road Wimbledon for close to 25 years – until about 1940. Then , with the daughters now young women, and a second World War looming they move further south of the City, or at least have another home there. This moving south of London in retirement is a Setacci family pattern.

The 1938 Electoral Register has them at Sprole Cottage , Broad Lane , Surrey in the parish of Newdigate south of Dorking. Note the name “Sprole” Cottage. Why this name? Is it just a coincidence that Sproule was the maiden name of Martha Greer Mills’ mother. We don’t think so.

I found the below on the internet referring to Sprole Cottage in Newdigate, Dorking. Unfortunately the links for the historical society either don’t work or are password protected. Oh no – another trip to England might be required to investigate whether Sprole or Sproule Cottage still exists.

The 1939 England and Wales Register shows the Staceys near Godstone , not far from Dorking. Daughter Mildred’s wedding in 1941 however takes place in Newcastle on Tyne, and at that time, from what I can tell, Claud and Martha are living at Wilson Gardens in Newcastle on Tyne. One wonders if this home home in Northern England was a temporary refuge from the WW2 bombing of London.

Finally, later in the 1950s, the family is found at 26 Sondes Place Road in Dorking and remaining their until 1961 and probably beyond.

I mentioned earlier that daughter Mildred arrives in WW1 and marries in WW2. We will do a more detailed post on Mildred and sisters Pauline and Olive in the future once we have some more family photos to share. Here we will just mention that on June 2 ,1941 at All Saints Church in Newcastle on Tyne that Mildred Stacey is married to a Sargent in the Canadian Royal Army Service Corps. His name is William James Dixon of London, Ontario, Canada.

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Trip – 1954

In 1954 Claud and Martha take a trip to North America. They are both in their mid 60s at the time. We don’t know if this was their only trip to North America or not, but this one is well documented in a couple of shipping lists .

They travel first on the ship the Nova Scotian. They depart from Liverpool on May 19, 1954 and arrive in Boston 12 days later on May 31, 1954. Boston however is not their destination. No, they are headed to Pawtucket Rhode Island. Why Pawtucket? Well, guess who moved to the USA in the mid 1920s? Remember the very young sister who came to London from Londonderry with Martha Greer? Yes Martha Greer’s younger adventurous sister Elizabeth! Bessie (Elizabeth) is now living in Pawtucket at 52 Oswald Street, and her married name is name is Elizabeth Mills Kinnell. One must think this would have been quite the joyous reunion. How long had it been since the two sisters had seen each other? (and BTW this means you probably have cousins in the Pawtucket area !)

And, not only that, Bessie’s son Galway Mills Kinnel becomes a well known Pulitzer Prize winning poet. Again, I encourage your to Google your great grandmother Mildred’s first cousin Galway Mills Kinnel. (your first cousin a few times removed0 I think you will be impressed. Or order one of his books of poetry. I love this poem of his.

After their stay in Pawtucket, did Claud and Martha travel on to Canada to visit their daughter Mildred and family in Hamilton Ontario ? I have to think they would have. And I am hoping someone reading this has photos, or at minimum memories of this visit by their grandparents that we can post here!

It turns out Judi Dixon does remember this trip of her grandparents to Canada. She was ten years old at the time. She remembers her parents building a cabin at their summer home in Oliphant, Ontario on the Bruce Peninsula. The extra space was needed because her grandparents were coming all the way from England for a visit. Her parents jokingly named the small cabin they were building “Sproule Cottage” because that was the name of their home back in Surrey England. ( again, Sproule was the maiden name of Judi’s great grandmother Elizabeth Mills)

Claude and Martha arrive back in Liverpool at the end of September 1954 on the Empress of Scotland , either sailing out of Montreal or Quebec City.

Visitor from Canada – 1959

In 1959 Martha and Claud drive down to the South of England. I am assuming they drove down, but they may have taken the train. Or it is possible they didn’t drive down to Southampton at all. It could be their visitor took the train up to London.. The visitor is Martha Greer Mill’s older brother John Sproule Mills. Martha Greer Mills ( or as her brother called her “Martie” ) and her family, despite all leaving Londonderry at relatively young ages for different parts of the world, must have kept in close touch over the years. Yes the visitor is your great great Uncle John Sproule Mills of Saskatoon. John Sproule Mills arrives in Southampton from Montreal on the Saxonia of the Cunard Steam Ship Line on May 29, 1959.

As you can see above , he gives the Stacey’s in Dorking Surrey at his intended destination. And he intends to stay for ten weeks! I can’t tell for sure whether John Sproule brought his wife Ethel or not . There only seems to be one person listed on the passenger list. The Stacey’s and the John Sproule family remained close over the years. Judi Dixon tell us that her mother Mildred did go to visit her Mills cousins in Saskatoon, and that the daughter of John Sproule Mills would visit Olive Stacey’s daughter in London.

John Sproule, after living in various parts of Canada and the U.S. settled in Saskatoon Canada as had his brother Alexander. John Sproule was a school principal for many years and played a prominent role in the city of Saskatoon. He was the Mayor of Saskatoon for a number of years up to 1953. One wonders if the Stacey’s might have visited the Mills family in Saskatoon on their trip to Canada in 1954. You can read a bio below that can be found in the footnotes of his John Sproule Mills’ Wikipedia page. It is from a City of Saskatoon publication honoring its mayors.

And note below how Mrs Martie Stacey is named in his obituary in 1972.

We believe Claud Stacey passes in February 1971 while residing at the Bryn Nursing Home Upper Killay Swansea. ( to be confirmed- this might make sense as would be near his daughter Pauline I think)

Martha Greer Mills Stacey passes away later in the 1980s.( to be confirmed)

I would love to be able to post here their obituaries once we find them.

I have not been able to find a cemetery in which either Claud or Martha Greer rest. If anyone is aware of one, please let us know.

Aunt Gertrude

Gertrude Stacey was the second child of Lavinio and Letitia Setacci. She was their only daughter. She was Claud’s sister, making her your great great great Aunt.

Gertrude was born when her parents lived at Waldemar Street in Fulham, not far from Fulham Palace or the Putney Bridge.

At age 30 in 1921 she is working in the civil service as a temporary clerk at the Home Office. She worked at White Hall and lived with her family in Wimbledeon. One wonders if she and her father Lavinio would have taken the train together to get to work. She is single.

In age 48 in 1939 she is living in Worthing Sussex on the South Coast of England. She is living with her Aunt Helene Nachmann Stacey , wife and now widow of her Uncle Atillio. Gertrude is listed as single. As far as I know she never married.

Gertrude dies in 1973 at age 81 in Worthing Sussex.

Uncle Maurice

Uncle Maurice was the third child and second son of Lavinio and Letitia. He was born in 1893 in St Pancras London. As the brother of your great great grandfather he is your great great great Uncle Maurice.

Maurice begins a career in the Insurance industry when he is still a teenager and living with his family at 51 Alexandra Road Wimbledon in 1911.

This career is interrupted by World War One. Maurice and his younger brother Bernard decide to enlist in the army towards the end of August 1915. Interestingly they decide to enlist in the regiment of the Royal Engineers, but not just any division of the Royal Engineers. They enlist in the Motor Cyclist Special Reserve of the Royal Engineers. From what I can tell they were pre-approved for this Motor Cyclist Special Reserve prior to their official enlistment. In order to do this they had to undergo some kind of test of their motor cycling skills, which they both passed. At first it was not clear to me whether they had their own motorcycles until I finally figured out what the below says.

I believe it says “applicants motorcycle unsuitable” As a result I believe the Stacey brothers did apply with motorcycles they themselves owned. And, though the brothers passed the motor cycling skills test, their motorcycles did not. Their motorcycles were deemed unsuitable for the war. The brothers however were still accepted into the Royal Engineers Motorcycle Specialist Reserve based on their motorcycling skills. The Army then must have provided the Stacey’s with motorcycles to use.

See below the enlistment forms of Maurice signed August 26, 1915. .

Maurice is almost 23 years old. At this point he is still working in Insurance and lists his career as an “Inspector of Agents.” Maurice becomes Regiment Number 73194, his brother Bernard will be 73195. The regiment numbers are key when doing research on soldiers in any war as they help you quickly identify documents related to the person you are researching. As you can see below, his approval to join the Special Motorcyclist Reserve is given the day before he enlisted on the 25th of August, 1915.

One advantage of joining the Special Reserve was that Maurice and Bernard were immediately promoted to Corporal upon enlisting.

As shown in the document above , though it may be hard to decipher, the brothers are to report to the Royal Engineers Signal Service Rest Camp at Bletchley where I assume they will be assigned a motorcycle, maybe like the Triumph below, or maybe a Douglas.

Below is the most informative piece of paper from Maurice’s service records. It too is difficult to decipher. Maurice’s son Michael Lawrence claimed that his father was a heroic despatch rider who lost his leg in WW1. I think the below corroborates this story.

.From what I can tell: Maurice was transferred from the Base Signal Camp which I believe was in Dunstable England to France in October 1915. He suffers some form of casualty in 1917. It looks like in July in France. I think it reads “Leg Comp Frac Sev” something. I am taking this to mean that Corporal Maurice Stacey suffered a severe compound leg fracture. Maurice is then transferred to a hospital in England, though we aren’t told which hospital.

Uncle Maurice is discharged from the Army shortly thereafter as he is no longer physically fit for service.

The good news is that Corporal Maurice Stacey returns home safe and alive to the family home in Wimbledon in the summer of 1918.. For his service in WW1 he is awarded three medals . The 1914-15 Star, a British War Medal, and the Victory Medal.

Post-war

Maurice returns to his career in Insurance working for the Royal Exchange Assurance. Royal Exchange is an insurance company located in the Royal Exchange building shown below.

Maurice marries Doris Evelyn Bulling in the summer of 1923. They too settle in Wimbledon at 296 Coombe Lane. This home still exists.

Maurice and Doris have three children

Michael Lawrence Stacey

Gerald Christopher Stacey ( Named after his great grandfather?)

and daughter Julia Letitia ( named after her grandmother)

Doris passes away on March 17 , 1967 in Epsom, Surrey at age 69 where she lived at 42 Alexandra Road. Maurice passes away four years later at age 78.

I believe they are buried at the Epsom Cemetery although I can only find Doris listed there in plot S59.

Family of Maurice and Doris

Maurice and Doris’s two sons had impressive military careers. . .

You can google Rear Admiral Michael Lawrence Stacy and read about his illustrious career in various places on the internet. Interestingly his career had not only a military emphasis , but an environmental one as well. See below.

Gerald Christopher Stacey

And it is not just son Michael who had an impressive military career.

Major Gerald Christopher Stacey , also a son of Maurice and brother to Michael, has also won awards. In fact, in 1977, at the time of the Queens Silver Jubilee he was awarded a Silver Jubilee and Birthday award for his work with the British Green Jackets in training parachutists at the parachutist training centre in Netheravon , Wiltshire, England. See below.

You can find this your self online at the National Archives herehttps://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7633477

It is also referenced on this Wikipedia page – though you will need to do a search on his name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_Silver_Jubilee_and_Birthday_Honours

Julia Letitia Stacey , sister to Michael and Gerald moves to San Francisco California where she marries .

We definitely have cousins from these families all descendents of Uncle Maurice in both England and also I assume in California .

Uncle Bernard

Uncle Bernard is the 4th child of Lavinio and Letitia, and their third son. He is brother to your great great grandfather Claud. As Claud is getting married in the summer of 1915 , his two younger brothers Maurice and Bernard are enlisting into WW1. This is interesting to think a bit more about. The Setacci family in a a couple of generations have gone from being the family of an exiled Italian cabinet maker to now fighting for the British Army.

As mentioned in Maurice’s post, the two brothers enlist in the Royal Engineers Special Reserve Motor Cyclist Section as shown below. As mentioned in our post on his brother Maurice, Bernard passed the motorcycle skills test, but his motorcycle was deemed unusable for the war. He is accepted however into the Special Reserve Motor Cyclist Section on the strength of his motorcyclist skills. He would be provided with a motorcycle once he arrived in Bletchley for training.

The brothers are to report to the Royal Engineers Signal Services Rest Camp at Bletchley. ( note Bletchley becomes famous in WW2 for breaking code) And, given they were approved for this Section, they were automatically promoted to Corporals immediately upon enlistment.

Bernard is just turning 21. He has been working as a Bank Clerk at the Post Office . ( interesting as this was where his new sister-in-law also worked, could it have been through this connection that Martha Greer Mills met his brother Claud?) It is the end of August – the 26th to be exact – when he signs his papers. Had Bernard and Maurice been waiting for the big wedding of Claud and Martha to be over with before they enlisted? We believe so.

Let me introduce you to your Uncle Bernard. Maybe you have some of his Stacey/Setacci attributes?

Bernard stands 5 foot 9 3/4 inches tall, and has a mole on his upper right arm and another one the on the outer side of his left knee. Too much information – maybe – but this is probably important – so the army can identify him when ………. ?

And, as shown above, both brothers give their mother Letitia as the name of their next of kin. So we know who would get the call if……..

Like his brother Maurice, Bernard is initially in training at Dunstable England before being transferred to the theatre of war in France in October 1915. We aren’t told much more until he is demobilized into Class Z in July 1919. On June 17, 1919 while in Le Havre France he signs a form attesting to the fact that he has not suffered any disabilities as a result of his time at the War. If those dates are correct then Corporal Stacey spent a long period of time in France. And he is a very lucky very brave soldier.

He is awarded the 1914 -15 Star for service and participation in a theatre of war, a British War Medal , and a Victory Medal.

He is not listed with his family at home in Wimbledon or anywhere else in the 1921 UK Census. Was he still in France at the time the census was taken, or had he travelled elsewhere?

Bernard marries Irene May Rhodes in 1931 at age 36. Irene May is only 20. Irene comes from a good family as her Dad is a Physician and a Surgeon. The wedding is in Benhilton All Saints Parish Church south of London.

Bernard continues his career in the Banking industry. Bernard and Irene have two children. A daughter Gillian ( Canadian cousin Judith Dixon remembers meeting Gillian briefly on a trip to London when she was a teenager – the two cousins were the same age) And a son who I won’t identify here as he is still living. ( though you can see his name on the tombstone below!)

Again we have cousins from this family, most likely living in England.

Irene May passes in 1952 at the very young age of 42. Uncle Bernard passes in 1966 at the age of 71. Both are listed as passing away in Worthing on the South Coast of England between Eastbourne and Portsmouth. Irene is buried in the Rustington Cemetery not far from Worthing. This is the only example I have of a Stacey tombstone. ( there must be others we don’t know about)

The Wimbledon Ghost Walk

Wimbledon is where you will find many homes that the Setacci/ Stacey family inhabited from about 1910 to 1940 and maybe beyond.

So, if you are going to Wimbledon, maybe take a break from watching the tennis and take a couple of hours to explore the hood where your greats lived.

We believe your great great Uncle Attilio Regolos Setacci – although he changed his name to Arthur Royce Stacey perhaps to better fit into British society – was the first Settaci to settle here. He lived and worked – as a Dental Surgeon at 31 Home Park Road.

Close to the same time Attilio’s brother Lavinio also moved to Wimbledon. Lavinio is your third great grandfather . He and his family lived in Wimbledon at 51 Alexandra Road. It is while he lived here that two of his sons, Maurice and Bernard enlisted into World War One and the Royal Engineers Special Motorcycle Division in 1915

Lavinio’s son Claud was married that same year and set up his shop – after apprenticing with his uncle Attilio also set up his home and his Dental practice at 16 Augustus Road. Claud of course was the Father of your great grandmother Mildred. That makes him your great great grandfather.

After World War One was over Lavinio’s son Maurice also set up home in Wimbledon at 296 Coombe Lane. Maurice, brother to Claud would be you great great grand uncle – or something like that depending what generation of Stacy you happen to be. He would have been your great grandmothers uncle if that helps.

It is about a 2 hour walk from one side of Wimbledon to the other to visit all the homes of your Wimbledon greats. Take the train or tube to one of the nearby Wimbledon stations to start your walk.

Were the Stacey’s tennis fans? Did they play the game? Maybe someone in the family knows. Surely living nearby they must have had some interest. It would be hard to believe they wouldn’t have attended a match or two.

Well they couldn’t have gone to the tennis during WW1 as there were no tournaments during those War years. Before the War years Anthony Wilding of New Zealand was the Gentlemen’s champion. Anthony was killed in WW1. The Ladies champion at the same time was Dorothea Lambert of England in 1910, 1911, 1913 1nd 1914 and Ethel Thomson Larcombe in 1912.

Here is Dorothy in action below. Maybe some of your greats are in the stands, in the appropriate dress code, cheering her on?